They left us because they were not of us (1 John 2:19)

Does 1 John 2:19 mean people that leave us are not saved?

The interpretation of 1 John 2:19 has sparked debate among Christian groups, with some using the verse to label those who leave their local fellowship as unsaved and dangerous. This has led to the prohibition of fellowship, prayer, or even sharing meals with such individuals. However, it is important to examine the context of this verse and understand the Apostle John’s original intent in order to avoid misinterpretation and the dangers of overzealous faith. In this article, we will delve into the meaning of 1 John 2:19, explore its context, and discuss the implications of this verse for believers who leave a fellowship.

They went out from us,
but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us,
they would no doubt have continued with us:
but they went out,
that they might be made manifest
that they were not all of us. (1 John 2:19 KJV)

These people left our churches, but they never really belonged with us; otherwise they would have stayed with us. When they left, it proved that they did not belong with us. (1 John 2:19 NLT)

What is the context of 1 John 2:19?

Almost all false doctrine comes from plucking one sentence out of context and declaring that it means something other than the author intended. This is true in news reporting. And it is true in Bible exposition. So, let’s look at the entire context of what the Apostle John was saying…

Little children, these are the end times, and as you heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen. By this we know that it is the final hour.  They went out from us, but they didn’t belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have continued with us. But they left, that they might be revealed that none of them belong to us. 
     You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge. I have not written to you because you don’t know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son, the same doesn’t have the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also.
     Therefore, as for you, let that remain in you which you heard from the beginning. If that which you heard from the beginning remains in you, you also will remain in the Son, and in the Father. This is the promise which he promised us, the eternal life.
     These things I have written to you concerning those who would lead you astray. As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don’t need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him. (1 John 2:18-24 WEB)

Who is “they” in 1 John 2:19 and why did they leave us?

In 1 John 2:19, the “they” referred to are individuals who left the community of believers. These people are often associated with antichrists or false teachers who deny essential Christian doctrines, such as Jesus being the Christ or the relationship between the Father and the Son. The departure of these individuals from the community serves as a way to reveal that they were never genuinely part of the body of believers. Their leaving exposes their true nature and lack of genuine faith or commitment to the teachings of Christ.

Who is “us” in 1 John 2:19 and why did they leave us?

In 1 John 2:19, the “us” encompasses the whole body of believers, not just a local congregation or smaller group. The verse highlights the distinction between those who truly belong to the community of believers and those who leave, suggesting that the latter did not genuinely belong in the first place.

1 John 2:19 addresses the departure of certain individuals from the community of believers, referring to them as “they.” The verse emphasizes that their departure serves to reveal their true nature and lack of genuine faith, suggesting they were never truly part of the faithful community, referred to as “us.” Understanding the distinction between “us” and “they” in this context helps to clarify the Apostle John’s message and highlights the importance of discerning true believers from those who may attempt to lead others astray.

If you believe the “us” in 1 John 2:19 is just your company of believers, just your assembly, just your Ecclesia, or just your church, you have missed the point. If you believe the “they” in 1 John 2:19 refers to anyone who leaves your company of believers, your assembly, your Ecclesia, or your church, you might have crossed over the line into the sin of sectarianism.

  • How does sectarian opinion become a doctrine of sectarianism? – Sectarianism is bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived sectarian differences between subdivisions within a group
  • Accidental Pharisees: Avoiding Pride, Exclusivity, and the Other Dangers of Overzealous Faith by Larry Osborne – Zealous faith can have a dangerous, dark side. While recent calls for radical Christians have challenged many to be more passionate about their faith, the downside can be a budding arrogance and self-righteousness that “accidentally” sneaks into our outlook. In Accidental Pharisees, bestselling author Larry Osborne diagnoses nine of the most common traps that can ensnare Christians on the road to a deeper life of faith. Rejecting attempts to turn the call to follow Christ into a new form of legalism, he shows readers how to avoid the temptations of pride, exclusivity, legalism, and hypocrisy. Larry reminds us that attempts to fan the flames of full-on discipleship and call people to Christlikeness should be rooted in love and humility. Christians stirred by calls to radical discipleship, but unsure how to respond, will be challenged and encouraged to develop a truly Christlike zeal for God.

Will you be ashamed when Jesus returns?

And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. (1 John 2:28-29 KJV)

4 Replies to “They left us because they were not of us (1 John 2:19)”

  1. Hope you don’t mind, but I shared this with a Jehovah’s Witness group who believe I “went out from among them,” and therefore God turned his back on me. So far from the truth! Since escaping from the total control and abuse of the organization my life has been directed by Jesus and I’ve experienced more favor, peace, enlightenment, hope, love and knowledge than ever before. Thank you for writing this!

    • Greetings Jeannie,

      Thank you for taking the time to write. I know this was really hard for you but I am excited that God has led you to a better place. The kind of control and abuse you describe is quite common; therefore, I am proud of you for sharing this with them. I would like to contact you privately to hear more of your story and share some things that have been helpful to me and others in similar situations.

  2. I have seen this behavior and have been part of it myself. This is because I was being faithful to the leadership. After awhile, I began to feel that things should be resolved with love. Jesus gave us a process to make things clear. (Mt.18:15-17) This avoids the sin of defamation or slander, or mainly the law of loving our neighbor as ourselves. 1 John 2:19 explains clearly the “us” and “them” and the “them” will leave.

  3. Some Christian cults use this verse to trap people by telling them if they leave their local group, it proves they were never saved in the first place. So, people stay in abusive man-made fear-based churches because they are afraid to leave. Let God free you from bondage.

    So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law. (Galatians 5:1)

    Only in this way could he set free all who have lived their lives as slaves to the fear of dying. (Hebrews 2:15)

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